{
  "id": 540586,
  "title": "Can we make DL models work for this competition?",
  "url": "/competitions/ariel-data-challenge-2024/discussion/540586",
  "author_name": "Zhu Siqi",
  "post_date": "2024-10-15T08:29:11.094000",
  "votes": 2,
  "comment_count": 2,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I've experimented with various CNN backbones, but they even don't perform well on the training data, and their training appears to be unstable (as seen in <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/sergeifironov/mobilenet-training/comments#2989784)\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/sergeifironov/mobilenet-training/comments#2989784)</a>. Given their poor performance on the training data, are there any specific tricks to improve the results? Or are these models just not a good fit for this dataset?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 3020131,
      "postDate": "2024-10-17T07:27:57.717Z",
      "content": "<p>I believe complex modelling in general is not the solution for this competition. There's a discussion here on why linear models work best for this case and I mostly agree with it.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I believe complex modelling in general is not the solution for this competition. There's a discussion here on why linear models work best for this case and I mostly agree with it.",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 3017817,
      "postDate": "2024-10-15T08:29:11.093Z",
      "content": "<p>I've experimented with various CNN backbones, but they even don't perform well on the training data, and their training appears to be unstable (as seen in <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/sergeifironov/mobilenet-training/comments#2989784)\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/sergeifironov/mobilenet-training/comments#2989784)</a>. Given their poor performance on the training data, are there any specific tricks to improve the results? Or are these models just not a good fit for this dataset?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I've experimented with various CNN backbones, but they even don't perform well on the training data, and their training appears to be unstable (as seen in https://www.kaggle.com/code/sergeifironov/mobilenet-training/comments#2989784). Given their poor performance on the training data, are there any specific tricks to improve the results? Or are these models just not a good fit for this dataset?",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 3023522,
      "postDate": "2024-10-20T16:44:09.880Z",
      "content": "<p>In theory, a CNN + resnet or transformer could cover linear models and archive better performance.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "In theory, a CNN + resnet or transformer could cover linear models and archive better performance."
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 3020131,
      "author_name": "Natan Labarrère",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-10-17T07:27:57.717000",
      "content": "<p>I believe complex modelling in general is not the solution for this competition. There's a discussion here on why linear models work best for this case and I mostly agree with it.</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 3023522,
      "author_name": "Bobber Cheng",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-10-20T16:44:09.880000",
      "content": "<p>In theory, a CNN + resnet or transformer could cover linear models and archive better performance.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "3020131": "I believe complex modelling in general is not the solution for this competition. There's a discussion here on why linear models work best for this case and I mostly agree with it.",
    "3017817": "I've experimented with various CNN backbones, but they even don't perform well on the training data, and their training appears to be unstable (as seen in https://www.kaggle.com/code/sergeifironov/mobilenet-training/comments#2989784). Given their poor performance on the training data, are there any specific tricks to improve the results? Or are these models just not a good fit for this dataset?",
    "3023522": "In theory, a CNN + resnet or transformer could cover linear models and archive better performance."
  }
}