{
  "id": 417253,
  "title": "Pro-tips on fingerspelling #4: easy letters, hard symbols, and an on-line dictionary",
  "url": "/competitions/asl-fingerspelling/discussion/417253",
  "author_name": "Thad Starner",
  "post_date": "2023-06-15T00:02:55.453000",
  "votes": 8,
  "comment_count": 1,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Only two letters in ASL fingerspelling have motion: J and Z.  Their characteristic motion makes them easy to spot during fingerspelling, and since they are relatively rare letters, their presence in a word are a major clue as to what the word is.</p>\n<p>P and Q are distinct in their own way. For both, the hand is tilted down, and that only occurs for these two letters.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://deafchildren.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ASL-Alphabet-ASDC.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Fingerspelling chart</a></p>\n<p>Unfortunately, these handshapes are not common in videos used to train handtrackers, which may have difficulty in producing correct landmarks. However, the downward motion made when switching from a preceeding letter to a P or Q followed by the upward motion for the next letter should be a pretty strong feature.</p>\n<p>Symbols in ASL can vary greatly from signer to signer. However, some, like +, can be consistent.</p>\n<p>One way to get a sense of how these symbols are signed is to type the English name of them into the </p>\n<p><a href=\"http://storage.googleapis.com/smartsigndictionary.org/index.htm\" target=\"_blank\">SMARTSignDictionary</a></p>\n<p>Try typing \"plus\" or \"quote\"</p>\n<p>Or visit the dictionary on YouTube</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@smartsigndictionary\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/@smartsigndictionary</a></p>\n<p>(I believe the license on most of the dictionary videos is for educational use only, so they can not be used for the competition.  Sorry!)</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 2302886,
      "postDate": "2023-06-15T00:02:55.453Z",
      "content": "<p>Only two letters in ASL fingerspelling have motion: J and Z.  Their characteristic motion makes them easy to spot during fingerspelling, and since they are relatively rare letters, their presence in a word are a major clue as to what the word is.</p>\n<p>P and Q are distinct in their own way. For both, the hand is tilted down, and that only occurs for these two letters.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://deafchildren.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ASL-Alphabet-ASDC.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Fingerspelling chart</a></p>\n<p>Unfortunately, these handshapes are not common in videos used to train handtrackers, which may have difficulty in producing correct landmarks. However, the downward motion made when switching from a preceeding letter to a P or Q followed by the upward motion for the next letter should be a pretty strong feature.</p>\n<p>Symbols in ASL can vary greatly from signer to signer. However, some, like +, can be consistent.</p>\n<p>One way to get a sense of how these symbols are signed is to type the English name of them into the </p>\n<p><a href=\"http://storage.googleapis.com/smartsigndictionary.org/index.htm\" target=\"_blank\">SMARTSignDictionary</a></p>\n<p>Try typing \"plus\" or \"quote\"</p>\n<p>Or visit the dictionary on YouTube</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@smartsigndictionary\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/@smartsigndictionary</a></p>\n<p>(I believe the license on most of the dictionary videos is for educational use only, so they can not be used for the competition.  Sorry!)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Only two letters in ASL fingerspelling have motion: J and Z.  Their characteristic motion makes them easy to spot during fingerspelling, and since they are relatively rare letters, their presence in a word are a major clue as to what the word is.\n\nP and Q are distinct in their own way. For both, the hand is tilted down, and that only occurs for these two letters.\n\n[Fingerspelling chart](https://deafchildren.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ASL-Alphabet-ASDC.pdf)\n\nUnfortunately, these handshapes are not common in videos used to train handtrackers, which may have difficulty in producing correct landmarks. However, the downward motion made when switching from a preceeding letter to a P or Q followed by the upward motion for the next letter should be a pretty strong feature.\n\nSymbols in ASL can vary greatly from signer to signer. However, some, like +, can be consistent.\n\nOne way to get a sense of how these symbols are signed is to type the English name of them into the \n\n[SMARTSignDictionary](http://storage.googleapis.com/smartsigndictionary.org/index.htm)\n\nTry typing \"plus\" or \"quote\"\n\nOr visit the dictionary on YouTube\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/@smartsigndictionary](https://www.youtube.com/@smartsigndictionary)\n\n(I believe the license on most of the dictionary videos is for educational use only, so they can not be used for the competition.  Sorry!)\n\n\n\n",
      "votes": 8
    },
    {
      "id": 2303755,
      "postDate": "2023-06-15T13:05:18.983Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks a lot, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/thadstarner\" target=\"_blank\">@thadstarner</a> </p>\n<p>Domain knowledge is key to good machine learning and I'm learning a lot from your posts!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks a lot, @thadstarner \n\nDomain knowledge is key to good machine learning and I'm learning a lot from your posts!"
    }
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2303755,
      "author_name": "Wondering Alice",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-06-15T13:05:18.983000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks a lot, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/thadstarner\" target=\"_blank\">@thadstarner</a> </p>\n<p>Domain knowledge is key to good machine learning and I'm learning a lot from your posts!</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    }
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    "2302886": "Only two letters in ASL fingerspelling have motion: J and Z.  Their characteristic motion makes them easy to spot during fingerspelling, and since they are relatively rare letters, their presence in a word are a major clue as to what the word is.\n\nP and Q are distinct in their own way. For both, the hand is tilted down, and that only occurs for these two letters.\n\n[Fingerspelling chart](https://deafchildren.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ASL-Alphabet-ASDC.pdf)\n\nUnfortunately, these handshapes are not common in videos used to train handtrackers, which may have difficulty in producing correct landmarks. However, the downward motion made when switching from a preceeding letter to a P or Q followed by the upward motion for the next letter should be a pretty strong feature.\n\nSymbols in ASL can vary greatly from signer to signer. However, some, like +, can be consistent.\n\nOne way to get a sense of how these symbols are signed is to type the English name of them into the \n\n[SMARTSignDictionary](http://storage.googleapis.com/smartsigndictionary.org/index.htm)\n\nTry typing \"plus\" or \"quote\"\n\nOr visit the dictionary on YouTube\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/@smartsigndictionary](https://www.youtube.com/@smartsigndictionary)\n\n(I believe the license on most of the dictionary videos is for educational use only, so they can not be used for the competition.  Sorry!)\n\n\n\n",
    "2303755": "Thanks a lot, @thadstarner \n\nDomain knowledge is key to good machine learning and I'm learning a lot from your posts!"
  }
}