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  "id": 430330,
  "title": "FACE_LANDMARK_coordinates ?",
  "url": "/competitions/asl-fingerspelling/discussion/430330",
  "author_name": "Prabhakar_Nimmagadda",
  "post_date": "2023-08-09T10:31:16.129000",
  "votes": 3,
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  "content": "<p>Can anybody provide the source where the lip coordinates were defined ? please, I didn't found them in media pipe library's documentation. But some coders are using these columns in the face are as a LIP. How they are decided that ? </p>\n<p>LIP = [<br>\n    61, 185, 40, 39, 37, 0, 267, 269, 270, 409,<br>\n    291, 146, 91, 181, 84, 17, 314, 405, 321, 375,<br>\n    78, 191, 80, 81, 82, 13, 312, 311, 310, 415,<br>\n    95, 88, 178, 87, 14, 317, 402, 318, 324, 308,<br>\n]</p>",
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      "id": 2381679,
      "postDate": "2023-08-09T10:31:16.130Z",
      "content": "<p>Can anybody provide the source where the lip coordinates were defined ? please, I didn't found them in media pipe library's documentation. But some coders are using these columns in the face are as a LIP. How they are decided that ? </p>\n<p>LIP = [<br>\n    61, 185, 40, 39, 37, 0, 267, 269, 270, 409,<br>\n    291, 146, 91, 181, 84, 17, 314, 405, 321, 375,<br>\n    78, 191, 80, 81, 82, 13, 312, 311, 310, 415,<br>\n    95, 88, 178, 87, 14, 317, 402, 318, 324, 308,<br>\n]</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Can anybody provide the source where the lip coordinates were defined ? please, I didn't found them in media pipe library's documentation. But some coders are using these columns in the face are as a LIP. How they are decided that ? \n\nLIP = [\n    61, 185, 40, 39, 37, 0, 267, 269, 270, 409,\n    291, 146, 91, 181, 84, 17, 314, 405, 321, 375,\n    78, 191, 80, 81, 82, 13, 312, 311, 310, 415,\n    95, 88, 178, 87, 14, 317, 402, 318, 324, 308,\n]",
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    {
      "id": 2399861,
      "postDate": "2023-08-20T16:23:04.563Z",
      "content": "<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F15519819%2F1cf78d08b315983876abadb438ad743a%2Fcanonical_face_model_uv_visualization.png?generation=1692548547937643&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"Face Landmarks\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "![Face Landmarks](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F15519819%2F1cf78d08b315983876abadb438ad743a%2Fcanonical_face_model_uv_visualization.png?generation=1692548547937643&alt=media)",
      "votes": 1
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    {
      "id": 2382001,
      "postDate": "2023-08-09T14:08:27.300Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/tensorflow/tfjs-models/blob/838611c02f51159afdd77469ce67f0e26b7bbb23/face-landmarks-detection/src/mediapipe-facemesh/keypoints.ts\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/tensorflow/tfjs-models/blob/838611c02f51159afdd77469ce67f0e26b7bbb23/face-landmarks-detection/src/mediapipe-facemesh/keypoints.ts</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://github.com/tensorflow/tfjs-models/blob/838611c02f51159afdd77469ce67f0e26b7bbb23/face-landmarks-detection/src/mediapipe-facemesh/keypoints.ts\n",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2382042,
          "postDate": "2023-08-09T14:43:05.590Z",
          "content": "<p>Thank you very much dear <strong>bliao</strong> !</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thank you very much dear **bliao** !"
        },
        {
          "id": 2383276,
          "postDate": "2023-08-10T09:32:05.730Z",
          "content": "<p>And why do we need lips coordinates, when we are dealing with fingerrs?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "And why do we need lips coordinates, when we are dealing with fingerrs?\n",
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2384213,
              "postDate": "2023-08-10T22:56:02.857Z",
              "content": "<p>Facial expressions in ASL carry contextual meaning.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Facial expressions in ASL carry contextual meaning."
            },
            {
              "id": 2385020,
              "postDate": "2023-08-11T06:30:16.463Z",
              "content": "<p>Yes, but we're only dealing with fingerspelling. Also, it was mentioned in the competition (or starter notebook, can't remember exactly) that we may wish to only use pose and fingers (perhaps only fingers)</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Yes, but we're only dealing with fingerspelling. Also, it was mentioned in the competition (or starter notebook, can't remember exactly) that we may wish to only use pose and fingers (perhaps only fingers)"
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          "id": 2401109,
          "postDate": "2023-08-21T12:41:22.170Z",
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    {
      "id": 2399861,
      "author_name": "Embeddedravi",
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      "post_date": "2023-08-20T16:23:04.563000",
      "content": "<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F15519819%2F1cf78d08b315983876abadb438ad743a%2Fcanonical_face_model_uv_visualization.png?generation=1692548547937643&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"Face Landmarks\"></p>",
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    {
      "id": 2382001,
      "author_name": "bliao",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-08-09T14:08:27.300000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/tensorflow/tfjs-models/blob/838611c02f51159afdd77469ce67f0e26b7bbb23/face-landmarks-detection/src/mediapipe-facemesh/keypoints.ts\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/tensorflow/tfjs-models/blob/838611c02f51159afdd77469ce67f0e26b7bbb23/face-landmarks-detection/src/mediapipe-facemesh/keypoints.ts</a></p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2382042,
          "author_name": "Prabhakar_Nimmagadda",
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          "post_date": "2023-08-09T14:43:05.590000",
          "content": "<p>Thank you very much dear <strong>bliao</strong> !</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 2383276,
          "author_name": "Denis Muriungi",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-08-10T09:32:05.730000",
          "content": "<p>And why do we need lips coordinates, when we are dealing with fingerrs?</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2384213,
              "author_name": "Prabhakar_Nimmagadda",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-08-10T22:56:02.857000",
              "content": "<p>Facial expressions in ASL carry contextual meaning.</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2385020,
              "author_name": "Amine Boussoubel",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-08-11T06:30:16.463000",
              "content": "<p>Yes, but we're only dealing with fingerspelling. Also, it was mentioned in the competition (or starter notebook, can't remember exactly) that we may wish to only use pose and fingers (perhaps only fingers)</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
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          "id": 2401109,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-08-21T12:41:22.170000",
          "content": "",
          "votes": 0,
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    "2381679": "Can anybody provide the source where the lip coordinates were defined ? please, I didn't found them in media pipe library's documentation. But some coders are using these columns in the face are as a LIP. How they are decided that ? \n\nLIP = [\n    61, 185, 40, 39, 37, 0, 267, 269, 270, 409,\n    291, 146, 91, 181, 84, 17, 314, 405, 321, 375,\n    78, 191, 80, 81, 82, 13, 312, 311, 310, 415,\n    95, 88, 178, 87, 14, 317, 402, 318, 324, 308,\n]",
    "2399861": "![Face Landmarks](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F15519819%2F1cf78d08b315983876abadb438ad743a%2Fcanonical_face_model_uv_visualization.png?generation=1692548547937643&alt=media)",
    "2382001": "https://github.com/tensorflow/tfjs-models/blob/838611c02f51159afdd77469ce67f0e26b7bbb23/face-landmarks-detection/src/mediapipe-facemesh/keypoints.ts\n"
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