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  "id": 169423,
  "title": "Thanks to all the teams and next steps",
  "url": "/competitions/prostate-cancer-grade-assessment/discussion/169423",
  "author_name": "Wouter Bulten",
  "post_date": "2020-07-23T19:40:46.535000",
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  "content": "<p>First of all, we as organizers would like to congratulate all the teams who participated in the challenge. We are very happy to see that so many teams joined and were able to achieve high scores on the leaderboard, especially given the high amounts of label noise in the dataset.</p>\n\n<p>With the competition on Kaggle coming to a close, we will continue with the scientific part of the challenge, the workshop, and the additional awards. We are looking forward to taking a deep dive into all the solutions and are very excited to see which of the methods will generalize well to unseen data. For this, we need your input!</p>\n\n<p>If you haven’t already, please check out our post on the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/prostate-cancer-grade-assessment/discussion/161595\">additional prizes, scientific paper, and MICCAI workshop</a>. Given that many of the teams are very close, we will, besides the final leaderboard position, specifically look at how you addressed the problem. Make sure to submit your notebook that you have used for the final private leaderboard score, as that’s the one we will use.</p>\n\n<p>Again, thank you all for your participation so far! If you have any questions or comments, let us know. We hope many of you will signup for the next part!</p>\n\n<p>On behalf of the whole organizing team,</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/petstr\">Peter</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kimmokartasalo\">Kimmo</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/martineklund\">Martin</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/geertlitjens\">Geert</a> &amp; <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/wouterbulten\">Wouter</a></p>\n\n<p><strong>Note: To give teams some additional time to submit, we have extended the deadline until the 31st of July.</strong></p>",
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      "postDate": "2020-07-23T19:40:46.537Z",
      "content": "<p>First of all, we as organizers would like to congratulate all the teams who participated in the challenge. We are very happy to see that so many teams joined and were able to achieve high scores on the leaderboard, especially given the high amounts of label noise in the dataset.</p>\n\n<p>With the competition on Kaggle coming to a close, we will continue with the scientific part of the challenge, the workshop, and the additional awards. We are looking forward to taking a deep dive into all the solutions and are very excited to see which of the methods will generalize well to unseen data. For this, we need your input!</p>\n\n<p>If you haven’t already, please check out our post on the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/prostate-cancer-grade-assessment/discussion/161595\">additional prizes, scientific paper, and MICCAI workshop</a>. Given that many of the teams are very close, we will, besides the final leaderboard position, specifically look at how you addressed the problem. Make sure to submit your notebook that you have used for the final private leaderboard score, as that’s the one we will use.</p>\n\n<p>Again, thank you all for your participation so far! If you have any questions or comments, let us know. We hope many of you will signup for the next part!</p>\n\n<p>On behalf of the whole organizing team,</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/petstr\">Peter</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kimmokartasalo\">Kimmo</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/martineklund\">Martin</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/geertlitjens\">Geert</a> &amp; <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/wouterbulten\">Wouter</a></p>\n\n<p><strong>Note: To give teams some additional time to submit, we have extended the deadline until the 31st of July.</strong></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "First of all, we as organizers would like to congratulate all the teams who participated in the challenge. We are very happy to see that so many teams joined and were able to achieve high scores on the leaderboard, especially given the high amounts of label noise in the dataset.\n\nWith the competition on Kaggle coming to a close, we will continue with the scientific part of the challenge, the workshop, and the additional awards. We are looking forward to taking a deep dive into all the solutions and are very excited to see which of the methods will generalize well to unseen data. For this, we need your input!\n\nIf you haven’t already, please check out our post on the [additional prizes, scientific paper, and MICCAI workshop](https://www.kaggle.com/c/prostate-cancer-grade-assessment/discussion/161595). Given that many of the teams are very close, we will, besides the final leaderboard position, specifically look at how you addressed the problem. Make sure to submit your notebook that you have used for the final private leaderboard score, as that’s the one we will use.\n\nAgain, thank you all for your participation so far! If you have any questions or comments, let us know. We hope many of you will signup for the next part!\n\nOn behalf of the whole organizing team,\n\n[Peter](https://www.kaggle.com/petstr), [Kimmo](https://www.kaggle.com/kimmokartasalo), [Martin](https://www.kaggle.com/martineklund), [Geert](https://www.kaggle.com/geertlitjens) &amp; [Wouter](https://www.kaggle.com/wouterbulten)\n\n**Note: To give teams some additional time to submit, we have extended the deadline until the 31st of July.**",
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      "id": 1064191,
      "postDate": "2020-10-29T20:27:32.680Z",
      "content": "<p>You should probably try to understand the data and the problem before you post something like this. Good luck with the challenge.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "You should probably try to understand the data and the problem before you post something like this. Good luck with the challenge.",
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      "id": 942664,
      "postDate": "2020-07-23T23:20:30.273Z",
      "content": "<p>How do you submit? Or you mean make it public?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "How do you submit? Or you mean make it public?",
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          "postDate": "2020-07-24T08:34:00.920Z",
          "content": "<p>Please see the signup form and post. You can share the notebook with us privately, or make it public. In both cases you enter the URL of the notebook in the form.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Please see the signup form and post. You can share the notebook with us privately, or make it public. In both cases you enter the URL of the notebook in the form."
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          "id": 943589,
          "postDate": "2020-07-24T13:01:54.110Z",
          "content": "<p>Do we need to share dataset used in that kernel?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Do we need to share dataset used in that kernel?"
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          "id": 943604,
          "postDate": "2020-07-24T13:15:13.250Z",
          "content": "<p>Yes, everything that's required to run the kernel for inference. There is a field in the form where you can enter specific datasets. </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Yes, everything that's required to run the kernel for inference. There is a field in the form where you can enter specific datasets. "
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      "id": 945549,
      "postDate": "2020-07-26T00:09:24.733Z",
      "content": "<p>My team was ejected from the leaderboard. I've competed in around 20 competitions in the past and I can say that I definitely scorn cheating. would you please provide the reason that we got ejected? Please help me out here. If it's because of one of my teammates, I would not team up with him/her again in the future to prevent disqualification. Thanks in advance. <a href=\"/wouterbulten\">@wouterbulten</a> </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "My team was ejected from the leaderboard. I've competed in around 20 competitions in the past and I can say that I definitely scorn cheating. would you please provide the reason that we got ejected? Please help me out here. If it's because of one of my teammates, I would not team up with him/her again in the future to prevent disqualification. Thanks in advance. @wouterbulten ",
      "votes": -1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 951001,
          "postDate": "2020-07-29T19:40:12.237Z",
          "content": "<p>You are welcome to submit an appeal with compliance here: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/compliance\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/compliance</a></p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "You are welcome to submit an appeal with compliance here: https://www.kaggle.com/compliance",
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      "id": 945625,
      "postDate": "2020-07-26T03:20:27.943Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/wouterbulten\">@wouterbulten</a> still seek more clarity about those submission who have very competitive private lb score but not private lb rank . Many have faced move out of top 100 lb position as they couldn't select the one that would kept them in ranks.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "@wouterbulten still seek more clarity about those submission who have very competitive private lb score but not private lb rank . Many have faced move out of top 100 lb position as they couldn't select the one that would kept them in ranks.",
      "votes": -6,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 945919,
          "postDate": "2020-07-26T08:04:15.987Z",
          "content": "<p>I dont think , any action could be done. We can say that those in top has more generalized model.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "I dont think , any action could be done. We can say that those in top has more generalized model.",
          "votes": 1
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    {
      "id": 1314321,
      "postDate": "2021-05-19T05:35:35.330Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks Wouter for your hands on humanity!<br>\nI think the subject will be ongoing, since data science is florishing, and there will be more efficient algorythms which will surpass the winners results, which the others may benefit it!<br>\nI am already a naitive to the subject and wish to promote the subject, of many of whom will do such.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks Wouter for your hands on humanity!\nI think the subject will be ongoing, since data science is florishing, and there will be more efficient algorythms which will surpass the winners results, which the others may benefit it!\nI am already a naitive to the subject and wish to promote the subject, of many of whom will do such."
    },
    {
      "id": 1095091,
      "postDate": "2020-11-29T08:33:11.933Z",
      "content": "<p>Can we use PANDA data to do experiments and publish paper now? Thanks! <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/wouterbulten\" target=\"_blank\">@wouterbulten</a> </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Can we use PANDA data to do experiments and publish paper now? Thanks! @wouterbulten ",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1095642,
          "postDate": "2020-11-29T20:00:47.923Z",
          "content": "<p>Nice to hear that you are interested in the PANDA dataset for follow-up experiments. We are currently working on the scientific paper on the results of the challenge. More info on the scientific part of the challenge can be found on the MICCAI page: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/prostate-cancer-grade-assessment/overview/miccai-2020\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/prostate-cancer-grade-assessment/overview/miccai-2020</a> or on <a href=\"https://panda.grand-challenge.org\" target=\"_blank\">https://panda.grand-challenge.org</a> For your question specifically, I would like to point out the following:</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>We ask challenge participants to respect an embargo until the challenge paper has been published. After the embargo is lifted, participants are free to publish their own results. </p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>So, yes you are allowed to use the dataset for your own publications, but only after the challenge paper is published. Currently, this embargo is still in place. That means for now we kindly ask you to wait before publishing results or submitting to e.g. arXiv, conferences or journals.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Nice to hear that you are interested in the PANDA dataset for follow-up experiments. We are currently working on the scientific paper on the results of the challenge. More info on the scientific part of the challenge can be found on the MICCAI page: https://www.kaggle.com/c/prostate-cancer-grade-assessment/overview/miccai-2020 or on https://panda.grand-challenge.org For your question specifically, I would like to point out the following:\n\n> We ask challenge participants to respect an embargo until the challenge paper has been published. After the embargo is lifted, participants are free to publish their own results. \n\nSo, yes you are allowed to use the dataset for your own publications, but only after the challenge paper is published. Currently, this embargo is still in place. That means for now we kindly ask you to wait before publishing results or submitting to e.g. arXiv, conferences or journals.",
          "votes": 2
        },
        {
          "id": 1095812,
          "postDate": "2020-11-30T01:22:11.497Z",
          "content": "<p>Got it. Thank you very much!😄</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Got it. Thank you very much!😄"
        }
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    {
      "id": 951467,
      "postDate": "2020-07-30T06:54:50.707Z",
      "content": "<p>Very well done everybody!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Very well done everybody!"
    },
    {
      "id": 945465,
      "postDate": "2020-07-25T20:44:55.620Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/wouterbulten\">@wouterbulten</a> \nMy team was removed from public and private leader board.\nIssue on submitted notebook is appearing that 'notebook were submitted after competition date'.\nHow is it possible . My public rank was 41 and private 536. It has all disappeared now.\nCan someone please feedback.\nThanks.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "@wouterbulten \nMy team was removed from public and private leader board.\nIssue on submitted notebook is appearing that 'notebook were submitted after competition date'.\nHow is it possible . My public rank was 41 and private 536. It has all disappeared now.\nCan someone please feedback.\nThanks.",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 951002,
          "postDate": "2020-07-29T19:40:27.797Z",
          "content": "<p>You are welcome to submit an appeal to compliance here: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/compliance\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/compliance</a></p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "You are welcome to submit an appeal to compliance here: https://www.kaggle.com/compliance"
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      "id": 1314324,
      "postDate": "2021-05-19T05:37:43.470Z",
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      "id": 1064191,
      "author_name": "GeertLitjens",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-10-29T20:27:32.680000",
      "content": "<p>You should probably try to understand the data and the problem before you post something like this. Good luck with the challenge.</p>",
      "votes": 1,
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      "id": 942664,
      "author_name": "Shujun",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-07-23T23:20:30.273000",
      "content": "<p>How do you submit? Or you mean make it public?</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 943253,
          "author_name": "Wouter Bulten",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-07-24T08:34:00.920000",
          "content": "<p>Please see the signup form and post. You can share the notebook with us privately, or make it public. In both cases you enter the URL of the notebook in the form.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
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        {
          "id": 943589,
          "author_name": "R Guo",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-07-24T13:01:54.110000",
          "content": "<p>Do we need to share dataset used in that kernel?</p>",
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          "id": 943604,
          "author_name": "Wouter Bulten",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-07-24T13:15:13.250000",
          "content": "<p>Yes, everything that's required to run the kernel for inference. There is a field in the form where you can enter specific datasets. </p>",
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      "id": 945549,
      "author_name": "",
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      "post_date": "2020-07-26T00:09:24.733000",
      "content": "<p>My team was ejected from the leaderboard. I've competed in around 20 competitions in the past and I can say that I definitely scorn cheating. would you please provide the reason that we got ejected? Please help me out here. If it's because of one of my teammates, I would not team up with him/her again in the future to prevent disqualification. Thanks in advance. <a href=\"/wouterbulten\">@wouterbulten</a> </p>",
      "votes": -1,
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        {
          "id": 951001,
          "author_name": "Sohier Dane",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-07-29T19:40:12.237000",
          "content": "<p>You are welcome to submit an appeal with compliance here: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/compliance\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/compliance</a></p>",
          "votes": 1,
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      "id": 945625,
      "author_name": "Jaideep",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-07-26T03:20:27.943000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/wouterbulten\">@wouterbulten</a> still seek more clarity about those submission who have very competitive private lb score but not private lb rank . Many have faced move out of top 100 lb position as they couldn't select the one that would kept them in ranks.</p>",
      "votes": -6,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 945919,
          "author_name": "Rajnish Chauhan",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-07-26T08:04:15.987000",
          "content": "<p>I dont think , any action could be done. We can say that those in top has more generalized model.</p>",
          "votes": 1,
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    {
      "id": 1314321,
      "author_name": "Rza Pardis",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-05-19T05:35:35.330000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks Wouter for your hands on humanity!<br>\nI think the subject will be ongoing, since data science is florishing, and there will be more efficient algorythms which will surpass the winners results, which the others may benefit it!<br>\nI am already a naitive to the subject and wish to promote the subject, of many of whom will do such.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
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    {
      "id": 1095091,
      "author_name": "AndrewTal",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-11-29T08:33:11.933000",
      "content": "<p>Can we use PANDA data to do experiments and publish paper now? Thanks! <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/wouterbulten\" target=\"_blank\">@wouterbulten</a> </p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1095642,
          "author_name": "Wouter Bulten",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-11-29T20:00:47.923000",
          "content": "<p>Nice to hear that you are interested in the PANDA dataset for follow-up experiments. We are currently working on the scientific paper on the results of the challenge. More info on the scientific part of the challenge can be found on the MICCAI page: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/prostate-cancer-grade-assessment/overview/miccai-2020\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/prostate-cancer-grade-assessment/overview/miccai-2020</a> or on <a href=\"https://panda.grand-challenge.org\" target=\"_blank\">https://panda.grand-challenge.org</a> For your question specifically, I would like to point out the following:</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>We ask challenge participants to respect an embargo until the challenge paper has been published. After the embargo is lifted, participants are free to publish their own results. </p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>So, yes you are allowed to use the dataset for your own publications, but only after the challenge paper is published. Currently, this embargo is still in place. That means for now we kindly ask you to wait before publishing results or submitting to e.g. arXiv, conferences or journals.</p>",
          "votes": 2,
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          "id": 1095812,
          "author_name": "AndrewTal",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-11-30T01:22:11.497000",
          "content": "<p>Got it. Thank you very much!😄</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
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    {
      "id": 951467,
      "author_name": "Alin Cijov",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-07-30T06:54:50.707000",
      "content": "<p>Very well done everybody!</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
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    {
      "id": 945465,
      "author_name": "Rajnish Chauhan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-07-25T20:44:55.620000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/wouterbulten\">@wouterbulten</a> \nMy team was removed from public and private leader board.\nIssue on submitted notebook is appearing that 'notebook were submitted after competition date'.\nHow is it possible . My public rank was 41 and private 536. It has all disappeared now.\nCan someone please feedback.\nThanks.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
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        {
          "id": 951002,
          "author_name": "Sohier Dane",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-07-29T19:40:27.797000",
          "content": "<p>You are welcome to submit an appeal to compliance here: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/compliance\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/compliance</a></p>",
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      "id": 1314324,
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      "post_date": "2021-05-19T05:37:43.470000",
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    "942523": "First of all, we as organizers would like to congratulate all the teams who participated in the challenge. We are very happy to see that so many teams joined and were able to achieve high scores on the leaderboard, especially given the high amounts of label noise in the dataset.\n\nWith the competition on Kaggle coming to a close, we will continue with the scientific part of the challenge, the workshop, and the additional awards. We are looking forward to taking a deep dive into all the solutions and are very excited to see which of the methods will generalize well to unseen data. For this, we need your input!\n\nIf you haven’t already, please check out our post on the [additional prizes, scientific paper, and MICCAI workshop](https://www.kaggle.com/c/prostate-cancer-grade-assessment/discussion/161595). Given that many of the teams are very close, we will, besides the final leaderboard position, specifically look at how you addressed the problem. Make sure to submit your notebook that you have used for the final private leaderboard score, as that’s the one we will use.\n\nAgain, thank you all for your participation so far! If you have any questions or comments, let us know. We hope many of you will signup for the next part!\n\nOn behalf of the whole organizing team,\n\n[Peter](https://www.kaggle.com/petstr), [Kimmo](https://www.kaggle.com/kimmokartasalo), [Martin](https://www.kaggle.com/martineklund), [Geert](https://www.kaggle.com/geertlitjens) &amp; [Wouter](https://www.kaggle.com/wouterbulten)\n\n**Note: To give teams some additional time to submit, we have extended the deadline until the 31st of July.**",
    "1064191": "You should probably try to understand the data and the problem before you post something like this. Good luck with the challenge.",
    "942664": "How do you submit? Or you mean make it public?",
    "945549": "My team was ejected from the leaderboard. I've competed in around 20 competitions in the past and I can say that I definitely scorn cheating. would you please provide the reason that we got ejected? Please help me out here. If it's because of one of my teammates, I would not team up with him/her again in the future to prevent disqualification. Thanks in advance. @wouterbulten ",
    "945625": "@wouterbulten still seek more clarity about those submission who have very competitive private lb score but not private lb rank . Many have faced move out of top 100 lb position as they couldn't select the one that would kept them in ranks.",
    "1314321": "Thanks Wouter for your hands on humanity!\nI think the subject will be ongoing, since data science is florishing, and there will be more efficient algorythms which will surpass the winners results, which the others may benefit it!\nI am already a naitive to the subject and wish to promote the subject, of many of whom will do such.",
    "1095091": "Can we use PANDA data to do experiments and publish paper now? Thanks! @wouterbulten ",
    "951467": "Very well done everybody!",
    "945465": "@wouterbulten \nMy team was removed from public and private leader board.\nIssue on submitted notebook is appearing that 'notebook were submitted after competition date'.\nHow is it possible . My public rank was 41 and private 536. It has all disappeared now.\nCan someone please feedback.\nThanks.",
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