{
  "id": 377408,
  "title": "Mixup doesn't work for this problem ?",
  "url": "/competitions/rsna-breast-cancer-detection/discussion/377408",
  "author_name": "SenTran",
  "post_date": "2023-01-11T04:15:39.697000",
  "votes": 4,
  "comment_count": 5,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I try to use mixup (data and loss) on various experiments but got poor performance compare to normal.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 2094879,
      "postDate": "2023-01-11T04:15:39.697Z",
      "content": "<p>I try to use mixup (data and loss) on various experiments but got poor performance compare to normal.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I try to use mixup (data and loss) on various experiments but got poor performance compare to normal.",
      "votes": 4
    },
    {
      "id": 2099469,
      "postDate": "2023-01-14T13:16:00.077Z",
      "content": "<p>What is your mixing hyperparameter value? Maybe it is just too large..</p>\n<p>The Devastator.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "What is your mixing hyperparameter value? Maybe it is just too large..\n\nThe Devastator.\n",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2109667,
          "postDate": "2023-01-21T15:12:06.057Z",
          "content": "<p>I set alpha = 0.2 and prob = 0.5 </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "I set alpha = 0.2 and prob = 0.5 ",
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2109712,
              "postDate": "2023-01-21T15:44:47.927Z",
              "content": "<p>I have the same issue. I found at first it could work when training, however, it crushed after epoch 4. And the best threshold goes down quickly. Finally, It died…<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:51&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:55&lt;00:00, 12.29it/s]<br>\nloss:0.5541952940801617<br>\n1gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch0.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.088<br>\nwith optimization: 0.160<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.88336<br>\nlr = 0.0003<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:38&lt;00:00,  1.74it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.19it/s]<br>\nloss:0.4798278690825611<br>\n2gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch1.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.157<br>\nwith optimization: 0.228<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.85348<br>\nlr = 0.00024199999999999997<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:45&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.22it/s]<br>\nloss:0.42614720978041265<br>\n3gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch2.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.146<br>\nwith optimization: 0.215<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.85648<br>\nlr = 0.00018399999999999997<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:56&lt;00:00,  1.72it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.17it/s]<br>\nloss:0.38675757105197256<br>\n4gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch3.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.185<br>\nwith optimization: 0.226<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.06632<br>\nlr = 0.000126<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:45&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.10it/s]<br>\nloss:0.3563341726040533<br>\n5gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch4.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.123<br>\nwith optimization: 0.223<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.015870000000000002<br>\nlr = 6.8e-05<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:47&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.12it/s]<br>\nloss:0.33278957070916787<br>\n6gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch5.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.108<br>\nwith optimization: 0.209<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.0072<br>\nlr = 1e-05<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:51&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.15it/s]<br>\nloss:0.31562600300553817<br>\n7gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch6.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.102<br>\nwith optimization: 0.206<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.00334<br>\nlr = 1e-05<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:53&lt;00:00,  1.72it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:55&lt;00:00, 12.23it/s]<br>\nloss:0.3020148665037026<br>\n8gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch7.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.093<br>\nwith optimization: 0.193<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.00232<br>\nlr = 1e-05<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:43&lt;00:00,  1.74it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.20it/s]<br>\nloss:0.2908990504819062<br>\n9gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch8.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.086<br>\nwith optimization: 0.209<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.0014900000000000002<br>\nlr = 1e-05<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:45&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:55&lt;00:00, 12.40it/s]<br>\nloss:0.2819449872065049<br>\n10gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch9.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.099<br>\nwith optimization: 0.199<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.0031600000000000005<br>\nlr = 1e-05</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I have the same issue. I found at first it could work when training, however, it crushed after epoch 4. And the best threshold goes down quickly. Finally, It died...\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:51<00:00,  1.73it/s]\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:55<00:00, 12.29it/s]\nloss:0.5541952940801617\n1gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch0.pth\nwithout optimization: 0.088\nwith optimization: 0.160\nbest_thresh: 0.88336\nlr = 0.0003\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:38<00:00,  1.74it/s]\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56<00:00, 12.19it/s]\nloss:0.4798278690825611\n2gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch1.pth\nwithout optimization: 0.157\nwith optimization: 0.228\nbest_thresh: 0.85348\nlr = 0.00024199999999999997\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:45<00:00,  1.73it/s]\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56<00:00, 12.22it/s]\nloss:0.42614720978041265\n3gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch2.pth\nwithout optimization: 0.146\nwith optimization: 0.215\nbest_thresh: 0.85648\nlr = 0.00018399999999999997\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:56<00:00,  1.72it/s]\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56<00:00, 12.17it/s]\nloss:0.38675757105197256\n4gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch3.pth\nwithout optimization: 0.185\nwith optimization: 0.226\nbest_thresh: 0.06632\nlr = 0.000126\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:45<00:00,  1.73it/s]\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56<00:00, 12.10it/s]\nloss:0.3563341726040533\n5gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch4.pth\nwithout optimization: 0.123\nwith optimization: 0.223\nbest_thresh: 0.015870000000000002\nlr = 6.8e-05\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:47<00:00,  1.73it/s]\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56<00:00, 12.12it/s]\nloss:0.33278957070916787\n6gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch5.pth\nwithout optimization: 0.108\nwith optimization: 0.209\nbest_thresh: 0.0072\nlr = 1e-05\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:51<00:00,  1.73it/s]\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56<00:00, 12.15it/s]\nloss:0.31562600300553817\n7gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch6.pth\nwithout optimization: 0.102\nwith optimization: 0.206\nbest_thresh: 0.00334\nlr = 1e-05\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:53<00:00,  1.72it/s]\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:55<00:00, 12.23it/s]\nloss:0.3020148665037026\n8gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch7.pth\nwithout optimization: 0.093\nwith optimization: 0.193\nbest_thresh: 0.00232\nlr = 1e-05\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:43<00:00,  1.74it/s]\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56<00:00, 12.20it/s]\nloss:0.2908990504819062\n9gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch8.pth\nwithout optimization: 0.086\nwith optimization: 0.209\nbest_thresh: 0.0014900000000000002\nlr = 1e-05\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:45<00:00,  1.73it/s]\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:55<00:00, 12.40it/s]\nloss:0.2819449872065049\n10gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch9.pth\nwithout optimization: 0.099\nwith optimization: 0.199\nbest_thresh: 0.0031600000000000005\nlr = 1e-05"
            },
            {
              "id": 2111670,
              "postDate": "2023-01-23T04:45:04.240Z",
              "content": "<p>Okay, my fault. It actually could work when I change my upsample rate. My code is like LB 0.4 -&gt; 0.43 when using mixup.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Okay, my fault. It actually could work when I change my upsample rate. My code is like LB 0.4 -> 0.43 when using mixup."
            },
            {
              "id": 2111672,
              "postDate": "2023-01-23T04:46:37.393Z",
              "content": "<p>Thank you for this point :D .</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Thank you for this point :D ."
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2099469,
      "author_name": "The Devastator",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-01-14T13:16:00.077000",
      "content": "<p>What is your mixing hyperparameter value? Maybe it is just too large..</p>\n<p>The Devastator.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2109667,
          "author_name": "SenTran",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-01-21T15:12:06.057000",
          "content": "<p>I set alpha = 0.2 and prob = 0.5 </p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2109712,
              "author_name": "ChenxiangSun@NJU",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-01-21T15:44:47.927000",
              "content": "<p>I have the same issue. I found at first it could work when training, however, it crushed after epoch 4. And the best threshold goes down quickly. Finally, It died…<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:51&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:55&lt;00:00, 12.29it/s]<br>\nloss:0.5541952940801617<br>\n1gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch0.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.088<br>\nwith optimization: 0.160<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.88336<br>\nlr = 0.0003<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:38&lt;00:00,  1.74it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.19it/s]<br>\nloss:0.4798278690825611<br>\n2gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch1.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.157<br>\nwith optimization: 0.228<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.85348<br>\nlr = 0.00024199999999999997<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:45&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.22it/s]<br>\nloss:0.42614720978041265<br>\n3gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch2.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.146<br>\nwith optimization: 0.215<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.85648<br>\nlr = 0.00018399999999999997<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:56&lt;00:00,  1.72it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.17it/s]<br>\nloss:0.38675757105197256<br>\n4gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch3.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.185<br>\nwith optimization: 0.226<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.06632<br>\nlr = 0.000126<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:45&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.10it/s]<br>\nloss:0.3563341726040533<br>\n5gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch4.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.123<br>\nwith optimization: 0.223<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.015870000000000002<br>\nlr = 6.8e-05<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:47&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.12it/s]<br>\nloss:0.33278957070916787<br>\n6gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch5.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.108<br>\nwith optimization: 0.209<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.0072<br>\nlr = 1e-05<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:51&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.15it/s]<br>\nloss:0.31562600300553817<br>\n7gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch6.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.102<br>\nwith optimization: 0.206<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.00334<br>\nlr = 1e-05<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:53&lt;00:00,  1.72it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:55&lt;00:00, 12.23it/s]<br>\nloss:0.3020148665037026<br>\n8gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch7.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.093<br>\nwith optimization: 0.193<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.00232<br>\nlr = 1e-05<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:43&lt;00:00,  1.74it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:56&lt;00:00, 12.20it/s]<br>\nloss:0.2908990504819062<br>\n9gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch8.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.086<br>\nwith optimization: 0.209<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.0014900000000000002<br>\nlr = 1e-05<br>\n100%|██████████| 2678/2678 [25:45&lt;00:00,  1.73it/s]<br>\n100%|██████████| 685/685 [00:55&lt;00:00, 12.40it/s]<br>\nloss:0.2819449872065049<br>\n10gtf_efficientnetv2_s_epoch9.pth<br>\nwithout optimization: 0.099<br>\nwith optimization: 0.199<br>\nbest_thresh: 0.0031600000000000005<br>\nlr = 1e-05</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2111670,
              "author_name": "ChenxiangSun@NJU",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-01-23T04:45:04.240000",
              "content": "<p>Okay, my fault. It actually could work when I change my upsample rate. My code is like LB 0.4 -&gt; 0.43 when using mixup.</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2111672,
              "author_name": "SenTran",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-01-23T04:46:37.393000",
              "content": "<p>Thank you for this point :D .</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "2094879": "I try to use mixup (data and loss) on various experiments but got poor performance compare to normal.",
    "2099469": "What is your mixing hyperparameter value? Maybe it is just too large..\n\nThe Devastator.\n"
  }
}