{
  "id": 391262,
  "title": "Help! team removed from leaderboard and don't know why",
  "url": "/competitions/rsna-breast-cancer-detection/discussion/391262",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2023-02-28T20:46:29.280000",
  "votes": -2,
  "comment_count": 5,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>First of all, I haven't communicated with any team in the competition, because we don't know anyone in any team.</p>\n<p>There are four of us participating in the competition, and only four accounts participated in the competition.</p>\n<p>We notice that there are good ideas in the public discussion. And we will mix it with our own solution to see if it works. But in the end our model is trained on a private data set, which is made by our model. And I am willing to share with you to see if there is any imporvement.</p>\n<p>So, I don't understand why there is a problem of suspected cheating. And there is also no \"cheating\" sign or email to notify us that we are cheating or why they think we are cheating. All I konw is we didn't show up on leaderboard.</p>\n<p>Not only that, but until now our submission is still \"succeeded\", and there are no prompts elsewhere. I want to figure out what might cause this situation, and we will avoid it in the next competition.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 2163546,
      "postDate": "2023-02-28T22:52:20.587Z",
      "content": "<p>If you have no clue why you were removed from the competition, you can use <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/compliance\" target=\"_blank\">this form</a>.<br>\nHowever, most likely that one of your team members had multiple accounts(<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/368174\" target=\"_blank\">reference link</a>) </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "If you have no clue why you were removed from the competition, you can use [this form](https://www.kaggle.com/compliance).\nHowever, most likely that one of your team members had multiple accounts([reference link](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/368174)) ",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2163553,
          "postDate": "2023-02-28T23:04:10.777Z",
          "content": "<p>Thanks!<br>\nI have 2 questions and don't know if you can help me.<br>\nThe first is whether using the code in the public notebook will be judged as cheating (only data preprocessing, the model and weights are completely different from others).<br>\nThe second is that when my teammates registered for kaggle, they registered a google account by mistake, but we left it alone and ignored it. So it didn't participate in the competition, let alone submit predictions, would this be considered cheating?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thanks!\nI have 2 questions and don't know if you can help me.\nThe first is whether using the code in the public notebook will be judged as cheating (only data preprocessing, the model and weights are completely different from others).\nThe second is that when my teammates registered for kaggle, they registered a google account by mistake, but we left it alone and ignored it. So it didn't participate in the competition, let alone submit predictions, would this be considered cheating?",
          "votes": -1,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2163566,
              "postDate": "2023-02-28T23:15:06.357Z",
              "content": "<p>About the first question, using public notebooks and public datasets is no problem.<br>\nI don't know about the second question. If you explain and could prove your innocence, this may not be cheating.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "About the first question, using public notebooks and public datasets is no problem.\nI don't know about the second question. If you explain and could prove your innocence, this may not be cheating.",
              "votes": 1
            },
            {
              "id": 2163568,
              "postDate": "2023-02-28T23:18:27.420Z",
              "content": "<p>Thanks a lot!<br>\nWe delete that account now.<br>\nI already fill the form and prepared to wait for a reply, honestly it's frustrating that three months of hard work went to waste.<br>\nThank you again!</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Thanks a lot!\nWe delete that account now.\nI already fill the form and prepared to wait for a reply, honestly it's frustrating that three months of hard work went to waste.\nThank you again!",
              "votes": -1
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2163652,
      "postDate": "2023-03-01T01:25:34.757Z",
      "content": "<p>May be caused by your model was trained on private dataset.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "May be caused by your model was trained on private dataset.",
      "votes": -1
    },
    {
      "id": 2163476,
      "postDate": "2023-02-28T20:46:29.280Z",
      "content": "<p>First of all, I haven't communicated with any team in the competition, because we don't know anyone in any team.</p>\n<p>There are four of us participating in the competition, and only four accounts participated in the competition.</p>\n<p>We notice that there are good ideas in the public discussion. And we will mix it with our own solution to see if it works. But in the end our model is trained on a private data set, which is made by our model. And I am willing to share with you to see if there is any imporvement.</p>\n<p>So, I don't understand why there is a problem of suspected cheating. And there is also no \"cheating\" sign or email to notify us that we are cheating or why they think we are cheating. All I konw is we didn't show up on leaderboard.</p>\n<p>Not only that, but until now our submission is still \"succeeded\", and there are no prompts elsewhere. I want to figure out what might cause this situation, and we will avoid it in the next competition.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "First of all, I haven't communicated with any team in the competition, because we don't know anyone in any team.\n\nThere are four of us participating in the competition, and only four accounts participated in the competition.\n\nWe notice that there are good ideas in the public discussion. And we will mix it with our own solution to see if it works. But in the end our model is trained on a private data set, which is made by our model. And I am willing to share with you to see if there is any imporvement.\n\nSo, I don't understand why there is a problem of suspected cheating. And there is also no \"cheating\" sign or email to notify us that we are cheating or why they think we are cheating. All I konw is we didn't show up on leaderboard.\n\nNot only that, but until now our submission is still \"succeeded\", and there are no prompts elsewhere. I want to figure out what might cause this situation, and we will avoid it in the next competition.",
      "votes": -2
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2163546,
      "author_name": "luddite^",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-02-28T22:52:20.587000",
      "content": "<p>If you have no clue why you were removed from the competition, you can use <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/compliance\" target=\"_blank\">this form</a>.<br>\nHowever, most likely that one of your team members had multiple accounts(<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/368174\" target=\"_blank\">reference link</a>) </p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2163553,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-02-28T23:04:10.777000",
          "content": "<p>Thanks!<br>\nI have 2 questions and don't know if you can help me.<br>\nThe first is whether using the code in the public notebook will be judged as cheating (only data preprocessing, the model and weights are completely different from others).<br>\nThe second is that when my teammates registered for kaggle, they registered a google account by mistake, but we left it alone and ignored it. So it didn't participate in the competition, let alone submit predictions, would this be considered cheating?</p>",
          "votes": -1,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2163566,
              "author_name": "luddite^",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-02-28T23:15:06.357000",
              "content": "<p>About the first question, using public notebooks and public datasets is no problem.<br>\nI don't know about the second question. If you explain and could prove your innocence, this may not be cheating.</p>",
              "votes": 1,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2163568,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-02-28T23:18:27.420000",
              "content": "<p>Thanks a lot!<br>\nWe delete that account now.<br>\nI already fill the form and prepared to wait for a reply, honestly it's frustrating that three months of hard work went to waste.<br>\nThank you again!</p>",
              "votes": -1,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2163652,
      "author_name": "joejeo1",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-03-01T01:25:34.757000",
      "content": "<p>May be caused by your model was trained on private dataset.</p>",
      "votes": -1,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "2163546": "If you have no clue why you were removed from the competition, you can use [this form](https://www.kaggle.com/compliance).\nHowever, most likely that one of your team members had multiple accounts([reference link](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/368174)) ",
    "2163652": "May be caused by your model was trained on private dataset.",
    "2163476": "First of all, I haven't communicated with any team in the competition, because we don't know anyone in any team.\n\nThere are four of us participating in the competition, and only four accounts participated in the competition.\n\nWe notice that there are good ideas in the public discussion. And we will mix it with our own solution to see if it works. But in the end our model is trained on a private data set, which is made by our model. And I am willing to share with you to see if there is any imporvement.\n\nSo, I don't understand why there is a problem of suspected cheating. And there is also no \"cheating\" sign or email to notify us that we are cheating or why they think we are cheating. All I konw is we didn't show up on leaderboard.\n\nNot only that, but until now our submission is still \"succeeded\", and there are no prompts elsewhere. I want to figure out what might cause this situation, and we will avoid it in the next competition."
  }
}