{
  "id": 207679,
  "title": "YOLO Models",
  "url": "/competitions/vinbigdata-chest-xray-abnormalities-detection/discussion/207679",
  "author_name": "Pythonian",
  "post_date": "2020-12-30T20:04:24.325000",
  "votes": 12,
  "comment_count": 16,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Are YOLO Models allowed for this competition?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 3241833,
      "postDate": "2025-07-05T08:53:17.433Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/ultralytics/ultralytics\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/ultralytics/ultralytics</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://github.com/ultralytics/ultralytics",
      "votes": 1
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    {
      "id": 1132946,
      "postDate": "2020-12-30T20:04:24.327Z",
      "content": "<p>Are YOLO Models allowed for this competition?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Are YOLO Models allowed for this competition?",
      "votes": 12
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    {
      "id": 1150581,
      "postDate": "2021-01-12T17:25:32.247Z",
      "content": "<p>Allowances for to use of external data and enforcement of winning models compliance is ultimately at the discretion of the host. As <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andy2709\" target=\"_blank\">@andy2709</a> has clarified below, this host permits the use of YOLOv5.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Allowances for to use of external data and enforcement of winning models compliance is ultimately at the discretion of the host. As @andy2709 has clarified below, this host permits the use of YOLOv5.",
      "votes": 5,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1150601,
          "postDate": "2021-01-12T17:40:23.450Z",
          "content": "<p>Thank you for the clarification.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thank you for the clarification.",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 1150966,
          "postDate": "2021-01-13T02:35:57.617Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/matthiasanderer\" target=\"_blank\">@matthiasanderer</a> Just to confirm what Julia said above, our team <strong>allows</strong> people to use YOLOv5 in their solutions</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@matthiasanderer Just to confirm what Julia said above, our team **allows** people to use YOLOv5 in their solutions",
          "votes": 2
        },
        {
          "id": 1150970,
          "postDate": "2021-01-13T02:54:34.157Z",
          "content": "<p>Great, thank you for the information.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Great, thank you for the information.",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 1151205,
          "postDate": "2021-01-13T07:28:09Z",
          "content": "<p>Yeah, thank you for the clarification.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Yeah, thank you for the clarification."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1133151,
      "postDate": "2020-12-31T01:42:33.600Z",
      "content": "<p>Yes, you can use YOLOv5 (<a href=\"https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5</a>)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yes, you can use YOLOv5 (https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5)",
      "votes": 4,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1133189,
          "postDate": "2020-12-31T02:35:06.473Z",
          "content": "<p>Currently, I'm using YOLOv4 (root version \"https://github.com/AlexeyAB/darknet\") for many tasks, so i have a question: </p>\n<ul>\n<li>Why do people often use YOLOv5 instead of YOLOv4 even though the accuracy is not as high? :((((((( huhuhuhuhu</li>\n<li>Or is it convenient for research </li>\n</ul>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Currently, I'm using YOLOv4 (root version \"https://github.com/AlexeyAB/darknet\") for many tasks, so i have a question: \n- Why do people often use YOLOv5 instead of YOLOv4 even though the accuracy is not as high? :((((((( huhuhuhuhu\n- Or is it convenient for research ",
          "votes": -2
        },
        {
          "id": 1133769,
          "postDate": "2020-12-31T14:07:23.420Z",
          "content": "<p>Personally I prefer Yolov5 because it is implemented in PyTorch which is easier to handle and work with. You might look at this <a href=\"https://blog.roboflow.com/yolov4-versus-yolov5/#:~:text=YOLOv5%20trains%20faster%20on%20the,optimized%20to%20achieve%20higher%20FPS.\" target=\"_blank\">blog from roboflow</a> which presents comparison of these two models in different aspects.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Personally I prefer Yolov5 because it is implemented in PyTorch which is easier to handle and work with. You might look at this [blog from roboflow](https://blog.roboflow.com/yolov4-versus-yolov5/#:~:text=YOLOv5%20trains%20faster%20on%20the,optimized%20to%20achieve%20higher%20FPS.) which presents comparison of these two models in different aspects.",
          "votes": 9
        },
        {
          "id": 1142159,
          "postDate": "2021-01-07T07:48:09.320Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andy2709\" target=\"_blank\">@andy2709</a> Earlier Yolo was not allowed because of <a href=\"https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5/blob/master/LICENSE\" target=\"_blank\">GPLv3  license</a>.</p>\n<p>Here is Kaggle's <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/167298\" target=\"_blank\">official reply in Global Wheat Detection</a> competition where all Yolo submissions were <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/168353\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>disqualified</strong></a>.</p>\n<p>I see the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/vinbigdata-chest-xray-abnormalities-detection/rules\" target=\"_blank\">Rules</a> sections [8.C] are similar for both competitions - so want to avoid Global Wheat Detection situation where participants <strong>had to re-write their code</strong> using a different model.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@andy2709 Earlier Yolo was not allowed because of [GPLv3  license](https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5/blob/master/LICENSE).\n\nHere is Kaggle's [official reply in Global Wheat Detection](https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/167298) competition where all Yolo submissions were [**disqualified**](https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/168353).\n\nI see the [Rules](https://www.kaggle.com/c/vinbigdata-chest-xray-abnormalities-detection/rules) sections [8.C] are similar for both competitions - so want to avoid Global Wheat Detection situation where participants **had to re-write their code** using a different model.",
          "votes": 3
        },
        {
          "id": 1220175,
          "postDate": "2021-02-27T17:13:22.450Z",
          "rawMarkdown": "",
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    {
      "id": 1149978,
      "postDate": "2021-01-12T09:19:36.180Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/juliaelliott\" target=\"_blank\">@juliaelliott</a> and <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andy2709\" target=\"_blank\">@andy2709</a> : As stated by <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sirishks\" target=\"_blank\">@sirishks</a> there is a clear contradiction between the clearance of yolov5 in this thread and the competition rules section 8.c:</p>\n<p>Could you please give a clear go for GPL3 license in this competition.</p>\n<p>Otherwise a lot of people will now use yolov5 and will be very angry later on if you decide not to allow it :-)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "@juliaelliott and @andy2709 : As stated by @sirishks there is a clear contradiction between the clearance of yolov5 in this thread and the competition rules section 8.c:\n\nCould you please give a clear go for GPL3 license in this competition.\n\nOtherwise a lot of people will now use yolov5 and will be very angry later on if you decide not to allow it :-)",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 1133015,
      "postDate": "2020-12-30T21:22:05.147Z",
      "content": "<p>I think the competition is among the classification problems. As indicated on the sample submission csv file, only the labels are required - no bounding box values.  </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I think the competition is among the classification problems. As indicated on the sample submission csv file, only the labels are required - no bounding box values.  ",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1133027,
          "postDate": "2020-12-30T21:35:23.103Z",
          "content": "<p>The training data is in bounding box format. detectors produces box probabilities. You can use max(box probability) in your sample_submission file</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "The training data is in bounding box format. detectors produces box probabilities. You can use max(box probability) in your sample_submission file",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 1133045,
          "postDate": "2020-12-30T21:56:03.267Z",
          "content": "<p>You are right - looked the ddescription and the files again. Yeah, the competition is all about object detection. YOLO series are the ideal candidates. </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "You are right - looked the ddescription and the files again. Yeah, the competition is all about object detection. YOLO series are the ideal candidates. ",
          "votes": 2
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1132962,
      "postDate": "2020-12-30T20:19:43.430Z",
      "content": "<p>Of course! I will be using them for sure</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Of course! I will be using them for sure",
      "votes": 1
    }
  ],
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    {
      "id": 3241833,
      "author_name": "Banuprasad B",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2025-07-05T08:53:17.433000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/ultralytics/ultralytics\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/ultralytics/ultralytics</a></p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1150581,
      "author_name": "Julia Elliott",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-01-12T17:25:32.247000",
      "content": "<p>Allowances for to use of external data and enforcement of winning models compliance is ultimately at the discretion of the host. As <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andy2709\" target=\"_blank\">@andy2709</a> has clarified below, this host permits the use of YOLOv5.</p>",
      "votes": 5,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1150601,
          "author_name": "Matthias",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-01-12T17:40:23.450000",
          "content": "<p>Thank you for the clarification.</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1150966,
          "author_name": "NguyenThanhNhan",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-01-13T02:35:57.617000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/matthiasanderer\" target=\"_blank\">@matthiasanderer</a> Just to confirm what Julia said above, our team <strong>allows</strong> people to use YOLOv5 in their solutions</p>",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1150970,
          "author_name": "Mohammed Aliy",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-01-13T02:54:34.157000",
          "content": "<p>Great, thank you for the information.</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1151205,
          "author_name": "Pythonian",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-01-13T07:28:09",
          "content": "<p>Yeah, thank you for the clarification.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
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    },
    {
      "id": 1133151,
      "author_name": "NguyenThanhNhan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-12-31T01:42:33.600000",
      "content": "<p>Yes, you can use YOLOv5 (<a href=\"https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5</a>)</p>",
      "votes": 4,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1133189,
          "author_name": "DUC NGUYEN HUYNH",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-12-31T02:35:06.473000",
          "content": "<p>Currently, I'm using YOLOv4 (root version \"https://github.com/AlexeyAB/darknet\") for many tasks, so i have a question: </p>\n<ul>\n<li>Why do people often use YOLOv5 instead of YOLOv4 even though the accuracy is not as high? :((((((( huhuhuhuhu</li>\n<li>Or is it convenient for research </li>\n</ul>",
          "votes": -2,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1133769,
          "author_name": "Zaber Ibn Abdul Hakim",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-12-31T14:07:23.420000",
          "content": "<p>Personally I prefer Yolov5 because it is implemented in PyTorch which is easier to handle and work with. You might look at this <a href=\"https://blog.roboflow.com/yolov4-versus-yolov5/#:~:text=YOLOv5%20trains%20faster%20on%20the,optimized%20to%20achieve%20higher%20FPS.\" target=\"_blank\">blog from roboflow</a> which presents comparison of these two models in different aspects.</p>",
          "votes": 9,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1142159,
          "author_name": "Sirish Somanchi",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-01-07T07:48:09.320000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andy2709\" target=\"_blank\">@andy2709</a> Earlier Yolo was not allowed because of <a href=\"https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5/blob/master/LICENSE\" target=\"_blank\">GPLv3  license</a>.</p>\n<p>Here is Kaggle's <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/167298\" target=\"_blank\">official reply in Global Wheat Detection</a> competition where all Yolo submissions were <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/168353\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>disqualified</strong></a>.</p>\n<p>I see the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/vinbigdata-chest-xray-abnormalities-detection/rules\" target=\"_blank\">Rules</a> sections [8.C] are similar for both competitions - so want to avoid Global Wheat Detection situation where participants <strong>had to re-write their code</strong> using a different model.</p>",
          "votes": 3,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1220175,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-02-27T17:13:22.450000",
          "content": "",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1149978,
      "author_name": "Matthias",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-01-12T09:19:36.180000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/juliaelliott\" target=\"_blank\">@juliaelliott</a> and <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andy2709\" target=\"_blank\">@andy2709</a> : As stated by <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sirishks\" target=\"_blank\">@sirishks</a> there is a clear contradiction between the clearance of yolov5 in this thread and the competition rules section 8.c:</p>\n<p>Could you please give a clear go for GPL3 license in this competition.</p>\n<p>Otherwise a lot of people will now use yolov5 and will be very angry later on if you decide not to allow it :-)</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1133015,
      "author_name": "Mohammed Aliy",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-12-30T21:22:05.147000",
      "content": "<p>I think the competition is among the classification problems. As indicated on the sample submission csv file, only the labels are required - no bounding box values.  </p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1133027,
          "author_name": "raddar",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-12-30T21:35:23.103000",
          "content": "<p>The training data is in bounding box format. detectors produces box probabilities. You can use max(box probability) in your sample_submission file</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1133045,
          "author_name": "Mohammed Aliy",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-12-30T21:56:03.267000",
          "content": "<p>You are right - looked the ddescription and the files again. Yeah, the competition is all about object detection. YOLO series are the ideal candidates. </p>",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1132962,
      "author_name": "raddar",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-12-30T20:19:43.430000",
      "content": "<p>Of course! I will be using them for sure</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    }
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    "1132946": "Are YOLO Models allowed for this competition?",
    "1150581": "Allowances for to use of external data and enforcement of winning models compliance is ultimately at the discretion of the host. As @andy2709 has clarified below, this host permits the use of YOLOv5.",
    "1133151": "Yes, you can use YOLOv5 (https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5)",
    "1149978": "@juliaelliott and @andy2709 : As stated by @sirishks there is a clear contradiction between the clearance of yolov5 in this thread and the competition rules section 8.c:\n\nCould you please give a clear go for GPL3 license in this competition.\n\nOtherwise a lot of people will now use yolov5 and will be very angry later on if you decide not to allow it :-)",
    "1133015": "I think the competition is among the classification problems. As indicated on the sample submission csv file, only the labels are required - no bounding box values.  ",
    "1132962": "Of course! I will be using them for sure"
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