{
  "id": 208111,
  "title": "Patient Age - is this adults only?",
  "url": "/competitions/vinbigdata-chest-xray-abnormalities-detection/discussion/208111",
  "author_name": "Björn",
  "post_date": "2021-01-02T00:58:03.643000",
  "votes": 2,
  "comment_count": 2,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>From the paper describing the methods to create the dataset, I see that \"The collected raw data was mostly of adult PA-view CXRs, but also included a significant amount of <strong>outliers such as</strong> images of body parts other than chest (due to mismatched DICOM tags), <strong>pediatric scans</strong>, low-quality images, or lateral CXRs. […] All outliers were automatically excluded from the dataset […].\"</p>\n<p>When I did <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/bjoernholzhauer/eda-dicom-reading-vinbigdata-chest-x-ray/edit/run/50675891\" target=\"_blank\">some exploratory data analysis</a>, I saw 839 .dicom files with <code>PatientAge</code> given as <code>000Y</code> (plus <code>000D</code> = 0 days?), which might either be yet another placeholder for missing or might really mean 0 years of age (i.e. &lt; 1 year-old). I'm thinking that some of these might really be that, since some of the ages are below &lt; 18 years, e.g. there's 107 images with <code>001Y</code> to <code>017Y</code>.</p>\n<p>I'm curious on whether there's more information in this, because obviously some diagnoses are just much more likely at certain ages.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 1136780,
      "postDate": "2021-01-03T12:25:02.173Z",
      "content": "<p>I'm one of the papers' authors and yes, this subset is adult-only.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'm one of the papers' authors and yes, this subset is adult-only.",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1136784,
          "postDate": "2021-01-03T12:28:41.193Z",
          "content": "<p>Thanks, so stuff like Patient age ='012Y' in the .dicom meta-data would be a data issue?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thanks, so stuff like Patient age ='012Y' in the .dicom meta-data would be a data issue?",
          "votes": 1
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1135183,
      "postDate": "2021-01-02T00:58:03.643Z",
      "content": "<p>From the paper describing the methods to create the dataset, I see that \"The collected raw data was mostly of adult PA-view CXRs, but also included a significant amount of <strong>outliers such as</strong> images of body parts other than chest (due to mismatched DICOM tags), <strong>pediatric scans</strong>, low-quality images, or lateral CXRs. […] All outliers were automatically excluded from the dataset […].\"</p>\n<p>When I did <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/bjoernholzhauer/eda-dicom-reading-vinbigdata-chest-x-ray/edit/run/50675891\" target=\"_blank\">some exploratory data analysis</a>, I saw 839 .dicom files with <code>PatientAge</code> given as <code>000Y</code> (plus <code>000D</code> = 0 days?), which might either be yet another placeholder for missing or might really mean 0 years of age (i.e. &lt; 1 year-old). I'm thinking that some of these might really be that, since some of the ages are below &lt; 18 years, e.g. there's 107 images with <code>001Y</code> to <code>017Y</code>.</p>\n<p>I'm curious on whether there's more information in this, because obviously some diagnoses are just much more likely at certain ages.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "From the paper describing the methods to create the dataset, I see that \"The collected raw data was mostly of adult PA-view CXRs, but also included a significant amount of **outliers such as** images of body parts other than chest (due to mismatched DICOM tags), **pediatric scans**, low-quality images, or lateral CXRs. [...] All outliers were automatically excluded from the dataset [...].\"\n\nWhen I did [some exploratory data analysis](https://www.kaggle.com/bjoernholzhauer/eda-dicom-reading-vinbigdata-chest-x-ray/edit/run/50675891), I saw 839 .dicom files with `PatientAge` given as `000Y` (plus `000D` = 0 days?), which might either be yet another placeholder for missing or might really mean 0 years of age (i.e. < 1 year-old). I'm thinking that some of these might really be that, since some of the ages are below < 18 years, e.g. there's 107 images with `001Y` to `017Y`.\n\nI'm curious on whether there's more information in this, because obviously some diagnoses are just much more likely at certain ages.",
      "votes": 2
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1136780,
      "author_name": "DatNT",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-01-03T12:25:02.173000",
      "content": "<p>I'm one of the papers' authors and yes, this subset is adult-only.</p>",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1136784,
          "author_name": "Björn",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-01-03T12:28:41.193000",
          "content": "<p>Thanks, so stuff like Patient age ='012Y' in the .dicom meta-data would be a data issue?</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "1136780": "I'm one of the papers' authors and yes, this subset is adult-only.",
    "1135183": "From the paper describing the methods to create the dataset, I see that \"The collected raw data was mostly of adult PA-view CXRs, but also included a significant amount of **outliers such as** images of body parts other than chest (due to mismatched DICOM tags), **pediatric scans**, low-quality images, or lateral CXRs. [...] All outliers were automatically excluded from the dataset [...].\"\n\nWhen I did [some exploratory data analysis](https://www.kaggle.com/bjoernholzhauer/eda-dicom-reading-vinbigdata-chest-x-ray/edit/run/50675891), I saw 839 .dicom files with `PatientAge` given as `000Y` (plus `000D` = 0 days?), which might either be yet another placeholder for missing or might really mean 0 years of age (i.e. < 1 year-old). I'm thinking that some of these might really be that, since some of the ages are below < 18 years, e.g. there's 107 images with `001Y` to `017Y`.\n\nI'm curious on whether there's more information in this, because obviously some diagnoses are just much more likely at certain ages."
  }
}