{
  "id": 221664,
  "title": "Can we use external dataset?",
  "url": "/competitions/vinbigdata-chest-xray-abnormalities-detection/discussion/221664",
  "author_name": "shiba",
  "post_date": "2021-02-23T17:38:51.858000",
  "votes": 4,
  "comment_count": 6,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Where do I post the external data I use? I remember there used to be a thread to post from competition host</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 1215525,
      "postDate": "2021-02-23T17:38:51.857Z",
      "content": "<p>Where do I post the external data I use? I remember there used to be a thread to post from competition host</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Where do I post the external data I use? I remember there used to be a thread to post from competition host",
      "votes": 4
    },
    {
      "id": 1216544,
      "postDate": "2021-02-24T10:26:14.097Z",
      "content": "<p>The rules changed recently</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>**C. External Data. **You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants. The ability to use External Data under this Section 7.C (External Data) does not limit your other obligations under these Competition Rules, including but not limited to Section 11 (Winners Obligations).</p>\n</blockquote>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The rules changed recently\n\n> **C. External Data. **You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants. The ability to use External Data under this Section 7.C (External Data) does not limit your other obligations under these Competition Rules, including but not limited to Section 11 (Winners Obligations).",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1216594,
          "postDate": "2021-02-24T10:47:38.660Z",
          "content": "<p>Since I am not a lawyer usually I find it difficult to match the rule paragraphs with licenses. Pretrained models on commercial restricted datasets is also a bit of a grey area. </p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/nguyenquyha\" target=\"_blank\">@nguyenquyha</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andy2709\" target=\"_blank\">@andy2709</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/nguyenbadung\" target=\"_blank\">@nguyenbadung</a><br>\nCan we use the cited external public datasets to train our model?</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://storage.googleapis.com/birds-external-data/external_data.png\" alt=\"External Data\"></p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Since I am not a lawyer usually I find it difficult to match the rule paragraphs with licenses. Pretrained models on commercial restricted datasets is also a bit of a grey area. \n\n@nguyenquyha @andy2709 @nguyenbadung\nCan we use the cited external public datasets to train our model?\n\n![External Data](https://storage.googleapis.com/birds-external-data/external_data.png)",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 1216693,
          "postDate": "2021-02-24T12:31:15.157Z",
          "content": "<p>Yes you can use the cited external public datasets and other useful datasets(<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/data\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/data</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/rsna-pneumonia-detection-challenge/data\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/rsna-pneumonia-detection-challenge/data</a>)</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Yes you can use the cited external public datasets and other useful datasets(https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/data, https://www.kaggle.com/c/rsna-pneumonia-detection-challenge/data)",
          "votes": 5
        },
        {
          "id": 1216751,
          "postDate": "2021-02-24T13:13:27.467Z",
          "content": "<p>Thanks for the confirmation!</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for the confirmation!",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 1217722,
          "postDate": "2021-02-25T09:06:30.253Z",
          "content": "<p>Got it !! Thanks!!!</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Got it !! Thanks!!!",
          "votes": 1
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1235258,
      "postDate": "2021-03-12T02:21:53.620Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/changewow\" target=\"_blank\">@changewow</a> Happy to see CheXpert is in the list of allowed datasets for this competition</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "@changewow Happy to see CheXpert is in the list of allowed datasets for this competition"
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1216544,
      "author_name": "beluga",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-02-24T10:26:14.097000",
      "content": "<p>The rules changed recently</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>**C. External Data. **You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants. The ability to use External Data under this Section 7.C (External Data) does not limit your other obligations under these Competition Rules, including but not limited to Section 11 (Winners Obligations).</p>\n</blockquote>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1216594,
          "author_name": "beluga",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-02-24T10:47:38.660000",
          "content": "<p>Since I am not a lawyer usually I find it difficult to match the rule paragraphs with licenses. Pretrained models on commercial restricted datasets is also a bit of a grey area. </p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/nguyenquyha\" target=\"_blank\">@nguyenquyha</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andy2709\" target=\"_blank\">@andy2709</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/nguyenbadung\" target=\"_blank\">@nguyenbadung</a><br>\nCan we use the cited external public datasets to train our model?</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://storage.googleapis.com/birds-external-data/external_data.png\" alt=\"External Data\"></p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1216693,
          "author_name": "DungNB",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-02-24T12:31:15.157000",
          "content": "<p>Yes you can use the cited external public datasets and other useful datasets(<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/data\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/data</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/rsna-pneumonia-detection-challenge/data\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/rsna-pneumonia-detection-challenge/data</a>)</p>",
          "votes": 5,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1216751,
          "author_name": "beluga",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-02-24T13:13:27.467000",
          "content": "<p>Thanks for the confirmation!</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1217722,
          "author_name": "shiba",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-02-25T09:06:30.253000",
          "content": "<p>Got it !! Thanks!!!</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1235258,
      "author_name": "Tensor Girl",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-03-12T02:21:53.620000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/changewow\" target=\"_blank\">@changewow</a> Happy to see CheXpert is in the list of allowed datasets for this competition</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "1215525": "Where do I post the external data I use? I remember there used to be a thread to post from competition host",
    "1216544": "The rules changed recently\n\n> **C. External Data. **You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants. The ability to use External Data under this Section 7.C (External Data) does not limit your other obligations under these Competition Rules, including but not limited to Section 11 (Winners Obligations).",
    "1235258": "@changewow Happy to see CheXpert is in the list of allowed datasets for this competition"
  }
}